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Old 11-02-2010, 06:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The DOT is currently working on making it illegal to talk on cell while diving ,unless your using a hands free device. This law is desperately needed in the USA.

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Old 11-02-2010, 08:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The DOT is currently working on making it illegal to talk on cell while diving ,unless your using a hands free device. This law is desperately needed in the USA.

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I agree that the law is needed, but we already have it in California, where it is routinely ignored. The fools even text while driving. I was almost hit by a driver on a cell who ran a red light. When I yelled at him, he flipped me off.
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's really sad i know one day i saw a school bus driver on his cell while driving. I saw several people come close to head collisions while talking on them. Personally i leave mine in dock and connect to car headphone jack works for me! Before that i used a blue tooth device. when you see some of these sensless fatal accidents in automobiles and wonder why do people still ignore the statistics.
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Talking on a cell phone while driving is no more distracting than talking to someone in the car, imo, and a good deal less distracting than people eating while driving. Are we gonna ban that, too? I once saw someone going down the highway at 60 miles an hour, eating a full size pizza (slice by slice and not NY style by folding it, either), and chugging some sort of orange drink from a one gallon jug. Don't tell me that me talking on my phone is more dangerous than that. No way!
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well many studies have been done and it's probably the dialing or manuevering while holding the cell phone that is the dangerous part. Try holding the cell while turning the wheel and using a proper turn signal. What if some drunk driver,chemically altered driver ,heart attack driver,texting driver where your taking the attention off the road to actually work the phone is coming straight at you and your holding the cell driving with one hand and you have seconds to make a decision, are you going to drop the phone and try and recover the cars position back to safety? it's happened so many times ,but i agrre if you use a car dock and some type of device that enables you to just talk without holding the phone, it's not much diffeent from sitting next to someone and having them engage in a conversation. IMOA
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd like to see those studies and/or know who did them. Because as our local paper recently wrote in an op/ed piece:
  • "The Highway Loss Data Institute, which is funded by insurers, has questioned the effectiveness of handheld cell phone bans in reducing accidents and less than a month ago published a study questioning the effectiveness of texting bans. A study by a University of Illinois professor found that in New York, which banned handheld phone use in 2001, accidents went down in populous places but not in more rural places."

So just saying that "studies have been done" doesn't convince me. I'd like to see the data myself (and yes, I'm looking up the data in the op/ed piece as well, as I don't take anything like that at face value, but I take vague "studies have been done" statements at even less value than that). "Its happened so many times..." Really? How many times? Where's the data on that?
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Heres something to read from the Nation safety council who has done extensive research in this topic,

http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/Re...%20Summary.pdf
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Actually, that document admits that it has not done "extensive research" on the topic. That document isn't a study, either, it is an "attributable risk estimate model" which has very little statistical data to back up the estimates. Nice try, though. Got an actual study with real, actual scientific data?
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Ok, heres one!http://www.nsc.org/Pages/NSCResponds...HDLIstudy.aspx

In January 2009, after careful consideration and a thorough review of the evidence, NSC called for states to enact bans on all cell phone use while driving. When the NSC adopted its policy, it did so based on evidence from more than 50 studies that showed the significant risk of cell phone use and texting while driving. NSC did not act with a broad policy based on one, two or even ten research studies.

Since that time, we have learned even more about the issue. IIHS and the National Safety Council have both reported that the combination of risk and exposure of cell phone use contributes to about 25 percent of crashes. No other form of distraction contributes to nearly that many crashes. NHTSA reports driver distractions led to nearly 5,400 deaths last year, while acknowledging the incomplete nature of police reporting could make the actual number of fatalities greater than reported.

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That is a response by the NSC to one of the studies I mentioned above regarding the op/ed piece. There's no scientific data in their response. Of significance, however, are these contradictory statements:

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"The study released today was performed in states at a time when consistent, uniform and effective enforcement was not in place."
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"In January 2009, after careful consideration and a thorough review of the evidence, NSC called for states to enact bans on all cell phone use while driving. When the NSC adopted its policy, it did so based on evidence from more than 50 studies that showed the significant risk of cell phone use and texting while driving."
So, because the latest study refutes their conclusions, its flawed due to lack of data. But the studies they relied on, which are even older, aren't flawed due to lack of data because those studies have conclusions that the NSC is looking for.

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