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« on: December 27, 2011, 09:46:13 PM »

Now, I know why Congress doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich.  What hypocrites.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45793299/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/t/economic-downturn-took-detour-capitol-hill/
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 08:43:41 AM »

I have seen the enemy and they is me!

Yep. Almost as profitable as being a store front preacher / community organizer and you don’t even need to be elected. Look at Jessie, Wright, Sharpton, Baker.

All you need is to be able to say what you’re going to do for the people. Doesn’t matter if you do, most will forget in a week anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_television_evangelists

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_televangelist_scandals
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 09:12:51 AM »

Nice try.  My comment was based on the fact that the politicians didn't want to do something, not out of any sense what is right, but to further personal greed.  You didn't have a valid reply, so you conjured up store front preachers...and threw in Baker who isn't a store front preacher, to avoid my question about why those you named were black? 

However, your final sentence is correct and points to an obvious conclusion.  Democracy has failed and it is time to adopt something that will actually work.
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 09:50:11 AM »

Because they’re in the news more than any white one I could think of except for Baker. Can you? Should have put in Moon, but that was so long ago.

I was agreeing with you. I do that sometimes. Have posted much the same myself regarding insider trading that’s legal for members of Congress.

They should not be able to make ANY money other than their salary. No speaking engagements for 100K, no sitting on board of directors, NO owning stock or company (them or their wives – sell it ALL before taking office). Nothing. Then we’d see how many want to make it a life long job. Tax audits, not just disclosures, every year to be published not just available.

Was noting that politicians, store front / TV / radio preachers (they’re all the same except one has a smaller following), and community organizers (any of those who are in it only for the buck) play to people’s emotions without ever intending on keeping their promises.

In this economy their path to wealth is finally starting to be scrutinized. Not too long ago it was said that only a wealthy man could afford to be a politician because of the low pay (relatively speaking), now it’s a way to become wealthy.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 10:15:41 AM »

The operative phrase was "store front preacher / community organizer"  It did not apply to Baker or Moon.

So, does that mean you acknowledge that when the Republicans oppose more taxes on the rich, that you understand their reason is solely to benefit themselves?

BTW, I love the way you make up reasons that you said something...After I call your attention to the fact you were dodging the issue. wink
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 10:21:16 AM »

I'm not upset that congress makes good money and has perks (minus not being held for any civil suits), what gets me is this inside trading business, that's clear mis use of power and they know and it's been brought up before to vote on and it's still legal for them. So is that fair that congress, while they're serving in office, cannot do stock trade? YES, it is most definitely fair. Once they leave congress, with their life long health care and pension, then they can do as much stocks as they want. IMO
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 10:36:55 AM »

I missed putting in that serving would have NO life time bennies except for security for pres and VP. If you want to serve the people then do so. Also, max of 2 terms then sit out for 2 before being able to run again.

Get rid of the Teddies (it's his seat), and 40 years in office.
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 10:56:20 AM »

If that were the case, only wealthy aristocrats would run for office.

BTW, term limits is the most undemocratic idea possible.  What ever happened to the will of the people?
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 01:19:57 PM »

It would be a hardship but I think I could live on 175K a year.

“BTW, term limits is the most undemocratic idea possibleâ€


We do it for presidents or are you advocating unlimited term for present one? Same when it’s not him?

They couldt serve again after enforced absence. Just not able to build a fiefdom.

“So, does that mean you acknowledge that when the Republicans oppose more taxes on the rich, that you understand their reason is solely to benefit themselves?â€


Members of both sides are guilty and should be removed.

Which party has made more from insider trading? Have posted this before.

Which party voted to exclude themselves for Obamacare? Same one.

“The operative phrase was "store front preacher / community organizer"  It did not apply to Baker or Moon.â€

Store front / hut / tent / TV, what’s the difference? Answer? Money to spend..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/us/22bakker.html

“Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, shown in 1987, lost their television ... park and resort in Fort Mill, S.C., grew in value to more than $125 millionâ€

“She and Mr. Bakker, an Assemblies of God minister, worked as traveling evangelists in the early years of their marriage.â€

http://www.mahalo.com/sun-myung-moon/
http://www.nndb.com/people/745/000022679/

“In 1950 he made his way to the more tolerant South Korea, where he held his first church services in a cardboard hut.â€

“Moon, who is estimated to be worth $990 million, has long opposed Communism and supported conservative politics and politicians.â€

“In 1982, Rev. Sun Myung Moon went to jail for tax fraudâ€

“He has spent more than a billion dollars underwriting the Washington Times, which has never come close to making a profitâ€
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2011, 04:05:23 PM »

I do not advocate term limits for any office.  Your Republican buddies threw a hissy-fit after Roosevelt was elected 4 times.

You still didn't answer the question of whether their opposition to higher taxes on the rich is based on merit or personal greed.

"Store front / hut / tent / TV, what’s the difference?"

If you cannot say what you mean, you can never mean what you say.

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