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« on: January 25, 2012, 08:13:53 AM »





http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/24/intel-to-produce-worlds-smallest-chips-in-arizona-desert/#ixzz1kTW0fPMJ

"But even as both of these facilities begin offering a wealth of new jobs, long term issues remain, said Jason Bagley, Intel’s manager of government affairs. "We're having an increasingly difficult time finding Ph.D. candidates or graduates to work at Intel from the United States," Bagley said during an economics luncheon last year.

"Look at the engineering schools across the country, and you have well over three-fourths of the students who are foreign nationals. We end up sending them home where they compete against us."



Who’s to blame? Take your pick.

1. Stupid programs that waste tons of money on frivolous concepts to insure no one feels slighted (no grades, no keeping score, no homework)?
2. Schools districts where there are only 3 teachers to every “administrator”?
3. Gov programs that have made higher education “affordable” to the point that it’s hard to get a real education?
4. Parents who don’t care what their kids are taught?

America, land of the self-indulgent and home of the mentally lazy.

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 11:40:22 AM »

Simple solutions. 
1.  Stop educating foreign students.
2.  Free education to qualified students in those areas that the country needs.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 01:54:25 PM »

That's a start but it might back fire, I can see foreign competition offering higher pay to well qualified individuals. Think about it, and everyone is different, but in general, if you were offered the equivalent of $1,000,000 USD to work in India or $200,000 to stay state side... you see the problem here.

Me personally? I care far more for our country than I for India, etc, but I also don't trust the average person, people are greedy, sometimes pathetically greedy.

The second solution, that could go places. There would need to be a contract stating something along the lines that in order to attend and graduate there you must then work for a hand full of companies for X amount of time, and possibly that you would not be allowed to work for other countries in that field of work.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:55 PM »

When did India pay higher wages than here?  Do you think all those customer service representatives with funny accents are getting paid more than similar jobs here?

No, I don't see the problem.  Your second solution sounds suspiciously like indentured servitude.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 02:16:27 AM »

I don't see how it's any different than contracts with tax preparation companies in that typically for two years after working for one you can't work for another. Is that questionably gray? I think so. Difference in my proposal is it might help keep greater minds in the states. Doesn't justify it from the sense of a free market, but like I said, I want the US to prosper more than other countries, call it blind patriotism if you want (but we need to keep the Chinese happy, they practically own us after all...)

Per India paying out more than the US, I admit that was a bad example, point stands though, just replace it with another country that would pay more.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 09:03:31 AM »


Substitute 75 k in India and you’d be correct

Not higher pay – higher buying power.

Worked for German company – had to stay there 7 weeks.

3.75 DMark = 1 dollar. Bought like a king.

Had some of their people here – they made 60,000 DM at home / wanted 60,000 US$ here. Would have been underpaid even at that.

Germany did have a program where a company would pay to send top candidates to graduate school in return for so many years of work from them after graduation.

Good plan. Students get education and have to pay back only half.
Of course here if you’re a politician’s kid you don’t have to pay back at all.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 09:20:45 AM »

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(but we need to keep the Chinese happy, they practically own us after all...)

Not true.  we can easily screw them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 02:27:25 AM »

We don't want to push the limits though, not when we owe so much money... perhaps if we only owed a trillion we could make some changes and work that off fairly quickly...

Lamoe, I'm facing a similar problem with near by plans for studying abroad in Japan, the dollar sucks right now...
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 10:32:50 AM »

Who says we have to pay them?
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 11:41:31 AM »

Honor aside, I'm pretty sure Obama, if re-elected, would make sure we still owe them if we beat them in war, but it wouldn't just be us vrs them, it's a world economy/alliance for the most part now, for the countries that have the ability to do anything.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 08:05:26 PM »

Make me President and I'll declare them a rogue nation and freeze their assets. Tongue

The planet is over-populated.  It's time for a war. wink
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